Comments on: BEEFSTEAK! http://www.blog.joelx.com/beefsteak/615/ The best online marketing blog by Joel Gross Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:13:33 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Joel http://www.blog.joelx.com/beefsteak/615/comment-page-1/#comment-870 Joel Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:17:25 +0000 http://www.blog.joelx.com/beefsteak/615/#comment-870 This is what happened to ruin Beefsteak originally... politics and religion got in the way of good ol' caveman fun. We should not do that again. Go to the religious posts to discuss religion. I am reserving this for the discussion of eating meat with your fingers and chugging down beer. Arrgghh maties, it's Beefsteak night! This is what happened to ruin Beefsteak originally… politics and religion got in the way of good ol’ caveman fun. We should not do that again. Go to the religious posts to discuss religion. I am reserving this for the discussion of eating meat with your fingers and chugging down beer. Arrgghh maties, it’s Beefsteak night!

]]> By: Goldy lockes http://www.blog.joelx.com/beefsteak/615/comment-page-1/#comment-869 Goldy lockes Fri, 01 Feb 2008 08:07:40 +0000 http://www.blog.joelx.com/beefsteak/615/#comment-869 some one always has to make it religious whatever happened to good ole fashion beefsteak some one always has to make it religious whatever happened to good ole fashion beefsteak

]]> By: Joel http://www.blog.joelx.com/beefsteak/615/comment-page-1/#comment-856 Joel Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:30:14 +0000 http://www.blog.joelx.com/beefsteak/615/#comment-856 Christians engage in what is known as "sophistry"- trying to obfuscate facts with complicated lines of reasoning. The Big Bang theory is actually very simple: Monster explosion of all matter in the universeleads an almost infinite amount amount of matter interacting, one in a trillion chance of life forming, but over trillions of years of zillions of atoms interacting, billions of life forms spontaneously generate and most die. The few that survive evolve into other life forms. Don't say evolution doesn't happen- over the last thousand years alone man has turned the great grey wolf into the friendly little chihuahua. Anyways, Beefsteak rocks! You want to discuss religion further, go the religious posts. The purpose of this post is to rejoice in Beefsteak. Christians engage in what is known as “sophistry”- trying to obfuscate facts with complicated lines of reasoning. The Big Bang theory is actually very simple: Monster explosion of all matter in the universeleads an almost infinite amount amount of matter interacting, one in a trillion chance of life forming, but over trillions of years of zillions of atoms interacting, billions of life forms spontaneously generate and most die. The few that survive evolve into other life forms. Don’t say evolution doesn’t happen- over the last thousand years alone man has turned the great grey wolf into the friendly little chihuahua. Anyways, Beefsteak rocks! You want to discuss religion further, go the religious posts. The purpose of this post is to rejoice in Beefsteak.

]]> By: God http://www.blog.joelx.com/beefsteak/615/comment-page-1/#comment-851 God Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:45:42 +0000 http://www.blog.joelx.com/beefsteak/615/#comment-851 I believe the concept goes along with the notion that your parents can love you but are willing to allow you to learn for yourself. But they are also there to catch you in the end. Its not necessarily a complete conflict of ideas. Overly simplified it would seem to be. But so is the notion of the Big Bang and alot of our scientific concepts that are there to replace a divine figure. Two things collide and we have a one in a trillion chance happening that a new life form is created? Seems illogical. But that is at its most simplistic level. I believe the concept goes along with the notion that your parents can love you but are willing to allow you to learn for yourself. But they are also there to catch you in the end.

Its not necessarily a complete conflict of ideas. Overly simplified it would seem to be. But so is the notion of the Big Bang and alot of our scientific concepts that are there to replace a divine figure. Two things collide and we have a one in a trillion chance happening that a new life form is created? Seems illogical. But that is at its most simplistic level.

]]> By: BlackRooster http://www.blog.joelx.com/beefsteak/615/comment-page-1/#comment-850 BlackRooster Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:35:57 +0000 http://www.blog.joelx.com/beefsteak/615/#comment-850 So let me get this straight, according to your statement above, human beings were created by God, God loves all human beings, but he lets the devil run the show and create pain, misery and torture" that doesn't make any sense. That's like saying my parents love me and they would do anything for me but they're gonna let someone else torture me physically and emotionally for the rest of your natural life. Don't you see what is going on...Christianity or any religion for that matter is no different than Scientology. It's science fiction and if Ron Hubbard had been born before Jesus then he would be the Mac Daddy of all. So let me get this straight, according to your statement above, human beings were created by God, God loves all human beings, but he lets the devil run the show and create pain, misery and torture” that doesn’t make any sense.

That’s like saying my parents love me and they would do anything for me but they’re gonna let someone else torture me physically and emotionally for the rest of your natural life.

Don’t you see what is going on…Christianity or any religion for that matter is no different than Scientology. It’s science fiction and if Ron Hubbard had been born before Jesus then he would be the Mac Daddy of all.

]]> By: God http://www.blog.joelx.com/beefsteak/615/comment-page-1/#comment-849 God Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:17:17 +0000 http://www.blog.joelx.com/beefsteak/615/#comment-849 And I didn't intend to usurp another blog post completely unrelated to religion into a battle of theology or lack thereof. And I didn’t intend to usurp another blog post completely unrelated to religion into a battle of theology or lack thereof.

]]> By: God http://www.blog.joelx.com/beefsteak/615/comment-page-1/#comment-846 God Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:13:39 +0000 http://www.blog.joelx.com/beefsteak/615/#comment-846 And in reference to the above comment by Black Rooster it is likely true that we are our own worst enemy. If you were a religious person you would also be aware that Scripture insinuates that the devil in fact is allowed to run the show. And in reference to the above comment by Black Rooster it is likely true that we are our own worst enemy. If you were a religious person you would also be aware that Scripture insinuates that the devil in fact is allowed to run the show.

]]> By: God http://www.blog.joelx.com/beefsteak/615/comment-page-1/#comment-845 God Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:12:03 +0000 http://www.blog.joelx.com/beefsteak/615/#comment-845 I pray that you are not taking anything I say aimed at you as a personal attack. I pray that you are not taking anything I say aimed at you as a personal attack.

]]> By: Joel http://www.blog.joelx.com/beefsteak/615/comment-page-1/#comment-841 Joel Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:06:26 +0000 http://www.blog.joelx.com/beefsteak/615/#comment-841 Jordan, I love our debates on here and in person, but please do not resort to personal attacks in an attempt to defend your ideas. If you have hard evidence to discuss, feel free to do so. In the future, I will delete comments that include ridiculous statements insinuating that I am making decisions based on factors other than what I am stating. I was questioning religion well before Mom went nuts and everything happened. I am not so stupid as to base my personal philosophy on a revolt against parents I have not lived with or spent time with since the age of 14. I developed my own ideas independently with reason, evidence and science. I would love to see you do the same. But if you choose not to, do not ever attack me personally to try and defend a losing position. You are welcome to state your theories and do your best to defend them with evidence, philosophy and logic. You are welcome to attack others ideas with the same. Just do not make personal attacks to defend your arguments. I enjoy reading your comments and engaging in debates with you and appreciate your continued discussions here. Jordan, I love our debates on here and in person, but please do not resort to personal attacks in an attempt to defend your ideas. If you have hard evidence to discuss, feel free to do so. In the future, I will delete comments that include ridiculous statements insinuating that I am making decisions based on factors other than what I am stating. I was questioning religion well before Mom went nuts and everything happened. I am not so stupid as to base my personal philosophy on a revolt against parents I have not lived with or spent time with since the age of 14. I developed my own ideas independently with reason, evidence and science. I would love to see you do the same. But if you choose not to, do not ever attack me personally to try and defend a losing position. You are welcome to state your theories and do your best to defend them with evidence, philosophy and logic. You are welcome to attack others ideas with the same. Just do not make personal attacks to defend your arguments. I enjoy reading your comments and engaging in debates with you and appreciate your continued discussions here.

]]> By: BlackRooster http://www.blog.joelx.com/beefsteak/615/comment-page-1/#comment-840 BlackRooster Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:00:54 +0000 http://www.blog.joelx.com/beefsteak/615/#comment-840 Joel's denial of God is not based on his childhood rather on observing the world around him. I think if we actually observe our world and see what "really" is going on (murder, rape, starvation, genocide, hunger, etc etc) we can see that not only doesn't god exist but satan is ruling on earth and our universe and he/she is loving it. Joel’s denial of God is not based on his childhood rather on observing the world around him. I think if we actually observe our world and see what “really” is going on (murder, rape, starvation, genocide, hunger, etc etc) we can see that not only doesn’t god exist but satan is ruling on earth and our universe and he/she is loving it.

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