Comments on: King of America: Abstinence Only Education http://www.blog.joelx.com/king-of-america-abstinence-only-education/842/ The best online marketing blog by Joel Gross Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:13:33 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Victor http://www.blog.joelx.com/king-of-america-abstinence-only-education/842/comment-page-1/#comment-30697 Victor Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:08:44 +0000 http://www.blog.joelx.com/?p=842#comment-30697 You fail to mention STD and Unwanted pregnancy. Your article comes off as anti-religious and not anti-abstinence. I am pro-abstinence for non-religious reasons. "I believe that abstinence only is the best education for children. Not because it is the only 100% way to avoid STDs. Not because I think it's a good idea to wait to have sex until you're married, because it's probably not. The reason why abstinence is best and only method for sex education is because condoms suck. They really suck. In fact they suck so badly that it isn't even worth having sex while wearing a condom....." also B.C. is only 98% effective. Learn the facts and in the meanwhile enjoy your H.I.V. -Vs You fail to mention STD and Unwanted pregnancy. Your article comes off as anti-religious and not anti-abstinence. I am pro-abstinence for non-religious reasons.

“I believe that abstinence only is the best education for children. Not because it is the only 100% way to avoid STDs. Not because I think it’s a good idea to wait to have sex until you’re married, because it’s probably not. The reason why abstinence is best and only method for sex education is because condoms suck. They really suck. In fact they suck so badly that it isn’t even worth having sex while wearing a condom…..” also B.C. is only 98% effective.

Learn the facts and in the meanwhile enjoy your H.I.V.
-Vs

]]> By: Christian chick http://www.blog.joelx.com/king-of-america-abstinence-only-education/842/comment-page-1/#comment-20564 Christian chick Tue, 12 May 2009 01:29:54 +0000 http://www.blog.joelx.com/?p=842#comment-20564 I agree with Chet. =) Waiting to have sex will put all the excitment into the wedding night. And in another survey, Christian couples, or couples who waited to have sex, were told have better than others. That means, quallity matters, not quantity. I agree with Chet. =)

Waiting to have sex will put all the excitment into the wedding night. And in another survey, Christian couples, or couples who waited to have sex, were told have better than others.

That means, quallity matters, not quantity.

]]> By: ObiJan http://www.blog.joelx.com/king-of-america-abstinence-only-education/842/comment-page-1/#comment-19681 ObiJan Mon, 04 May 2009 15:18:03 +0000 http://www.blog.joelx.com/?p=842#comment-19681 Okay.... So do we now agree that this "abstinence only" program is purely religiously based? If so, why is pushed on everybody, in public schools? BTW: This chart helps putting things in focus: http://www.thenationalcampaign.org/state-data/state-comparisions.asp?id=11&sID=801 Okay…. So do we now agree that this “abstinence only” program is purely religiously based?

If so, why is pushed on everybody, in public schools?

BTW: This chart helps putting things in focus:

http://www.thenationalcampaign.org/state-data/state-comparisions.asp?id=11&sID=801

]]> By: Chet http://www.blog.joelx.com/king-of-america-abstinence-only-education/842/comment-page-1/#comment-16794 Chet Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:32:26 +0000 http://www.blog.joelx.com/?p=842#comment-16794 From a perspective of the believers: If one believes in God and wants to follow his counsel, and abstinence is what is asked of us - then that is what a faithful follower would be willing to do to show his/her faith. Others may find it silly - that's okay. But for believers, your 'scientists predict better health for non-abstainers' is not enough. Your argument would have to first disprove God or disprove what God desires for me. Nice try - God can simply offer more benefits than someone who mocks. And the best part - he has promised to do so! :) From a perspective of the believers:
If one believes in God and wants to follow his counsel, and abstinence is what is asked of us – then that is what a faithful follower would be willing to do to show his/her faith.

Others may find it silly – that’s okay. But for believers, your ’scientists predict better health for non-abstainers’ is not enough. Your argument would have to first disprove God or disprove what God desires for me.

Nice try – God can simply offer more benefits than someone who mocks. And the best part – he has promised to do so! :)

]]> By: Wenalway http://www.blog.joelx.com/king-of-america-abstinence-only-education/842/comment-page-1/#comment-4861 Wenalway Sat, 20 Sep 2008 06:56:31 +0000 http://www.blog.joelx.com/?p=842#comment-4861 The recent trend of fools claiming “abstinence-only” education is somehow to blame for teen pregnancies is an unfortunate off-shoot of this dialogue. The people making this claim offer no proof and no tangible connection between the two concepts. Last I checked, journalism was supposed to be about facts, and one side has provided zero to back up its claims. To me, zero facts = zero credibility, yet these people go right on chanting. The other laughable part of their claim comes when they make some ad hominem claim like: “I have sex, and I’m monogamous,” as if somehow the accomplishment of connecting a reproductive organ with someone else on a consistent basis makes the person an expert on what national education policy should be. Also, a monogamous sexual relationship — even if it were somehow relevant to the shaping of national policy — would be mostly irrelevant to the target audience, which is students in their early teens. Yet this piece of logic manages to slip past the anti-responsibility crowd. Finally, these people claim to be “street smart,” yet they are selectively ignorant of the existence of anyone who has dealt with an unintended pregnancy. They also cling to percentages that should raise their awareness of the risk of a life-changing event, but somehow they rationalize these into a belief they’re at no risk at all. Anyway, we haven’t addressed the myriad people with these beliefs who simply are not ready for a sexual relationship, but we’ll save that one for another session. Remember, responsibility is the only factual, rational decision here. The recent trend of fools claiming “abstinence-only” education is somehow to blame for teen pregnancies is an unfortunate off-shoot of this dialogue. The people making this claim offer no proof and no tangible connection between the two concepts. Last I checked, journalism was supposed to be about facts, and one side has provided zero to back up its claims. To me, zero facts = zero credibility, yet these people go right on chanting.
The other laughable part of their claim comes when they make some ad hominem claim like: “I have sex, and I’m monogamous,” as if somehow the accomplishment of connecting a reproductive organ with someone else on a consistent basis makes the person an expert on what national education policy should be.
Also, a monogamous sexual relationship — even if it were somehow relevant to the shaping of national policy — would be mostly irrelevant to the target audience, which is students in their early teens. Yet this piece of logic manages to slip past the anti-responsibility crowd.
Finally, these people claim to be “street smart,” yet they are selectively ignorant of the existence of anyone who has dealt with an unintended pregnancy. They also cling to percentages that should raise their awareness of the risk of a life-changing event, but somehow they rationalize these into a belief they’re at no risk at all.
Anyway, we haven’t addressed the myriad people with these beliefs who simply are not ready for a sexual relationship, but we’ll save that one for another session. Remember, responsibility is the only factual, rational decision here.

]]> By: Joel http://www.blog.joelx.com/king-of-america-abstinence-only-education/842/comment-page-1/#comment-1790 Joel Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:41:21 +0000 http://www.blog.joelx.com/?p=842#comment-1790 Yeah, ridiculous morals are the cause of so much suffering in this world. Lack of sex causes aggression in all of these crazy guys and lack of height causes aggression in others. The combination creates men like napoleon and hitler. Bad news. Yeah, ridiculous morals are the cause of so much suffering in this world. Lack of sex causes aggression in all of these crazy guys and lack of height causes aggression in others. The combination creates men like napoleon and hitler. Bad news.

]]> By: BlackRooster http://www.blog.joelx.com/king-of-america-abstinence-only-education/842/comment-page-1/#comment-1784 BlackRooster Fri, 04 Apr 2008 08:44:57 +0000 http://www.blog.joelx.com/?p=842#comment-1784 Abstinence is ridicolous. The funny thing about that is the people who advocate this the most are the biggest paedophiles. How many cases do we hear every year about catholic priests molesting chidlren. And these priests were dumb enough to get caught, who knows how many are out there who molest children on a daily basis and get away with it. If "God" wanted us to only have sex for reproduction then sex wouldn't be the most pleasurable thing on earth. It would be something that humans would be "programmmed" to do a few times in their life time only to priduce offspring, like most animals. But sex is awesome and whenever you pass on sex you are cheating on yourself. I think it's time we let go of ideas and morals that existed for over 2000 years ago. Abstinence is ridicolous. The funny thing about that is the people who advocate this the most are the biggest paedophiles. How many cases do we hear every year about catholic priests molesting chidlren. And these priests were dumb enough to get caught, who knows how many are out there who molest children on a daily basis and get away with it. If “God” wanted us to only have sex for reproduction then sex wouldn’t be the most pleasurable thing on earth. It would be something that humans would be “programmmed” to do a few times in their life time only to priduce offspring, like most animals. But sex is awesome and whenever you pass on sex you are cheating on yourself. I think it’s time we let go of ideas and morals that existed for over 2000 years ago.

]]> By: Brown Nose Baby Joel http://www.blog.joelx.com/king-of-america-abstinence-only-education/842/comment-page-1/#comment-1781 Brown Nose Baby Joel Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:54:28 +0000 http://www.blog.joelx.com/?p=842#comment-1781 The caricature in the first cartoon (the one with the guy in a chastity belt), looks like you. The caricature in the first cartoon (the one with the guy in a chastity belt), looks like you.

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